UPDATED: Meeting to debate no confidence motions is confirmed

Council meeting confirmed

Council meeting confirmed

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AN extraordinary meeting to debate motions of no confidence in the leader and chief executive of Pembrokeshire County Council will now be held on September 19.

The date has been amended by the council to avoid clashing with Pembrokeshire Coast National Park's development management committee, which includes a number of council members.

Eighteen councillors signed a requisition calling for the meeting after chief executive Bryn Parry-Jones temporarily stood down in the wake of a number of scandals to hit the council. He has been backed throughout by leader Cllr Jamie Adams.

Council chairman Cllr Tom Richards considered the requisition and agreed to call the meeting of full council.

Councillors who signed the requisition include: Jacob Williams, Mike Stoddart, Jonathan Preston, Vivien Stoddart, Tessa Hodgson, Michael Williams, Tony Brinsden, Phil Baker, Jonathan Nutting, Tony Wilcox, Guy Woodham, Gwilym Price, Paul Miller, Alison Lee, David Lloyd, Pat Davies, Bob Kilmister and Peter Stock.

The meeting on September 19 will begin at 10am.

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10:30am Wed 27 Aug 14

hardcheese says...

We will see.
I would guess Bryn Parry-Jones will have enough creeps to support him. The Councillors that do support him are as bad a Bryn Parry-Jones and they should all be kick out.
We will see. I would guess Bryn Parry-Jones will have enough creeps to support him. The Councillors that do support him are as bad a Bryn Parry-Jones and they should all be kick out. hardcheese
  • Score: 22

11:16am Wed 27 Aug 14

Flashbang says...

If they really are independent councillors let's see them prove it by turning on BPJ and his lapdog. Remember who elected you and why you are actually there councillors.
If they really are independent councillors let's see them prove it by turning on BPJ and his lapdog. Remember who elected you and why you are actually there councillors. Flashbang
  • Score: 22

11:28am Wed 27 Aug 14

JonnyBlueJeans says...

Does anybody know if this will be live on the web?
Does anybody know if this will be live on the web? JonnyBlueJeans
  • Score: 6

11:51am Wed 27 Aug 14

seaveiw says...

Flashbang wrote:
If they really are independent councillors let's see them prove it by turning on BPJ and his lapdog. Remember who elected you and why you are actually there councillors.
come on peter morgan and councillor edwards show uss what you are made off, i thought he had upset you both.
[quote][p][bold]Flashbang[/bold] wrote: If they really are independent councillors let's see them prove it by turning on BPJ and his lapdog. Remember who elected you and why you are actually there councillors.[/p][/quote]come on peter morgan and councillor edwards show uss what you are made off, i thought he had upset you both. seaveiw
  • Score: 16

12:35pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

My copy of the Council's Constitution Part 3, Page 33 states that under the Local Government Act 1972, Schedule 12 Paragraph4 (2) (b), the Chief Executive is empowered to signature of summonses to Council meetings.

Now that The Leader, (with what specific legal authority?) has privately arranged with and for the CEO to "stand aside" (whatever this means), who is legally authorised to sign the summons for councillors to attend a Council Meeting?
My copy of the Council's Constitution Part 3, Page 33 states that under the Local Government Act 1972, Schedule 12 Paragraph4 (2) (b), the Chief Executive is empowered to signature of summonses to Council meetings. Now that The Leader, (with what specific legal authority?) has privately arranged with and for the CEO to "stand aside" (whatever this means), who is legally authorised to sign the summons for councillors to attend a Council Meeting? Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: 7

12:38pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Flashbang says...

Indeview J Hudson wrote:
My copy of the Council's Constitution Part 3, Page 33 states that under the Local Government Act 1972, Schedule 12 Paragraph4 (2) (b), the Chief Executive is empowered to signature of summonses to Council meetings.

Now that The Leader, (with what specific legal authority?) has privately arranged with and for the CEO to "stand aside" (whatever this means), who is legally authorised to sign the summons for councillors to attend a Council Meeting?
Don't give them a reason to call it off.
[quote][p][bold]Indeview J Hudson[/bold] wrote: My copy of the Council's Constitution Part 3, Page 33 states that under the Local Government Act 1972, Schedule 12 Paragraph4 (2) (b), the Chief Executive is empowered to signature of summonses to Council meetings. Now that The Leader, (with what specific legal authority?) has privately arranged with and for the CEO to "stand aside" (whatever this means), who is legally authorised to sign the summons for councillors to attend a Council Meeting?[/p][/quote]Don't give them a reason to call it off. Flashbang
  • Score: 6

1:18pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

My point was that The Leader had no business or legal authority to reach such an agreement in the first place and it would appear that ONLY the Chief Executive ( under legal powers specifically given to a specified Officer by Act of Parliament) can sign the summonses required to be issued to councillors for them to be called and attend Council meetings.

By taking it upon himself to agree this course of action, The Leader would appear to have landed the Council in another mess by his own actions. It is doubtful that the agreement has any legal standing.

It was for the full Council, as advised by officers to authorise another designated officer to act as a deputy with specific legal powers.

I stand to be corrected but can any Jamie, Tom, Hugh or Lawrence take it upon themselves to sign the required legal summons? If so where is the authority given by Parliament or the Council?

Very early on in the life of this Council, I was informed that it was not necessary for everything to be covered in the Council's Constitution.
Have we not got into this litany of disasters through an official disregard for due and proper lawful processes, as has been pointed out now by both by Judicial Review and the Auditor?

Just tell us who the Council has formally and lawfully authorised to act properly in the absence of the CEO, designated Head of Paid Service and proper officer for this function.

If this Council is going to be run, as it appears, with a pragmatic approach to its legislative powers and authorities, we ought to be told.
My point was that The Leader had no business or legal authority to reach such an agreement in the first place and it would appear that ONLY the Chief Executive ( under legal powers specifically given to a specified Officer by Act of Parliament) can sign the summonses required to be issued to councillors for them to be called and attend Council meetings. By taking it upon himself to agree this course of action, The Leader would appear to have landed the Council in another mess by his own actions. It is doubtful that the agreement has any legal standing. It was for the full Council, as advised by officers to authorise another designated officer to act as a deputy with specific legal powers. I stand to be corrected but can any Jamie, Tom, Hugh or Lawrence take it upon themselves to sign the required legal summons? If so where is the authority given by Parliament or the Council? Very early on in the life of this Council, I was informed that it was not necessary for everything to be covered in the Council's Constitution. Have we not got into this litany of disasters through an official disregard for due and proper lawful processes, as has been pointed out now by both by Judicial Review and the Auditor? Just tell us who the Council has formally and lawfully authorised to act properly in the absence of the CEO, designated Head of Paid Service and proper officer for this function. If this Council is going to be run, as it appears, with a pragmatic approach to its legislative powers and authorities, we ought to be told. Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: 11

5:45pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Welshman23 says...

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free writing resignation letters examples, samples and templates of ... www.businessballs.co m › writing/communicatin g This might be a good web site for templates on resignation letters. Just fill in the gaps. Welshman23
  • Score: 4

6:19pm Wed 27 Aug 14

teifion says...

As the IPG sheep have pre-deternined their votes can we get that overpaid lawyer back and tell THEM they are not allowed to vote?
As the IPG sheep have pre-deternined their votes can we get that overpaid lawyer back and tell THEM they are not allowed to vote? teifion
  • Score: 8

6:53pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Gogledd says...

Welshman23 wrote:
free writing resignation letters examples, samples and templates of ...
www.businessballs.co

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This might be a good web site for templates on resignation letters. Just fill in the gaps.
lol...I am not holding my breath tho....maybe this time we will as they say...get rid....
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: free writing resignation letters examples, samples and templates of ... www.businessballs.co m › writing/communicatin g This might be a good web site for templates on resignation letters. Just fill in the gaps.[/p][/quote]lol...I am not holding my breath tho....maybe this time we will as they say...get rid.... Gogledd
  • Score: 6

6:54pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Gogledd says...

Does anyone know if this is going to be in private or do we have the pleasure of watching....??
Does anyone know if this is going to be in private or do we have the pleasure of watching....?? Gogledd
  • Score: 7

8:04pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Welshman23 says...

National Park meeting takes preference over the most important debate, the date should have stayed or at worse the next day. The leader should have insisted that the meeting date remain for the 10th
What a shambolic state of affairs.
I wouldn't be surprised if BPJ has returned to work.
His extended period of absence is he being paid or is he creaming off everyone in Pembrokeshire.
I think the latter.
National Park meeting takes preference over the most important debate, the date should have stayed or at worse the next day. The leader should have insisted that the meeting date remain for the 10th What a shambolic state of affairs. I wouldn't be surprised if BPJ has returned to work. His extended period of absence is he being paid or is he creaming off everyone in Pembrokeshire. I think the latter. Welshman23
  • Score: 7

8:36pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Welshman23 says...

Councillors who signed the requisition include: Mike Stoddart, Jonathan Preston, Vivien Stoddart, Tessa Hodgson, Michael Williams, Tony Brinsden, Phil Baker, Jonathan Nutting, Tony Wilcox, Guy Woodham, Gwilym Price, Paul Miller, Alison Lee, David Lloyd, Pat Davies, Bob Kilmister and Peter Stock.
How many of these are IPPG members, if the answer is none then the vote will be governed by IPPG members.
Councillors who signed the requisition include: Mike Stoddart, Jonathan Preston, Vivien Stoddart, Tessa Hodgson, Michael Williams, Tony Brinsden, Phil Baker, Jonathan Nutting, Tony Wilcox, Guy Woodham, Gwilym Price, Paul Miller, Alison Lee, David Lloyd, Pat Davies, Bob Kilmister and Peter Stock. How many of these are IPPG members, if the answer is none then the vote will be governed by IPPG members. Welshman23
  • Score: 3

8:40pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Bilbo101 says...

Why wait so long and keep dragging this out longer than necessary ? The writing is on the wall and the people of Pembrokeshire have long been voicing their lack of confidence in Bryn Parry Jones and his loyal poddle Jamie Adams, we want our councillors to act yet it is as if they are stalling for more time. The sooner these parasites are kicked into touch the sooner our council can start trying to rebuild trust and confidence, though in my mind this will not really start until the whole of the controlling IPPG group are disbanded, collectively, they are responsible for so many bad decisions and allowing the administration of our county to be dragged into the gutter. They are incompetent at best and corrupt at worst and if they had an ounce of integrity left then should do the honourable thing and resign.

Bryn Parry-Jones needs to be sacked but I bet these bunch of scammers will allow him to walk away with golden pot of even more tax payers money, it is nothing more than continued abuse of public office.
Why wait so long and keep dragging this out longer than necessary ? The writing is on the wall and the people of Pembrokeshire have long been voicing their lack of confidence in Bryn Parry Jones and his loyal poddle Jamie Adams, we want our councillors to act yet it is as if they are stalling for more time. The sooner these parasites are kicked into touch the sooner our council can start trying to rebuild trust and confidence, though in my mind this will not really start until the whole of the controlling IPPG group are disbanded, collectively, they are responsible for so many bad decisions and allowing the administration of our county to be dragged into the gutter. They are incompetent at best and corrupt at worst and if they had an ounce of integrity left then should do the honourable thing and resign. Bryn Parry-Jones needs to be sacked but I bet these bunch of scammers will allow him to walk away with golden pot of even more tax payers money, it is nothing more than continued abuse of public office. Bilbo101
  • Score: 11

12:20am Thu 28 Aug 14

Kiwitaff says...

There was an investigation relating to the impact the FREEMASON's had on public life back in 1998 and Pembrokeshire County Council was one of two Local Authorities identified by a select committee in Parliament as under the influence of this secret society.

Sixteen years on and all of the startling revelations this year of cover ups of a child sex offender and questionable travel and pension payments means that the ratepayers in Pembrokeshire are still being ripped off.
There was an investigation relating to the impact the FREEMASON's had on public life back in 1998 and Pembrokeshire County Council was one of two Local Authorities identified by a select committee in Parliament as under the influence of this secret society. Sixteen years on and all of the startling revelations this year of cover ups of a child sex offender and questionable travel and pension payments means that the ratepayers in Pembrokeshire are still being ripped off. Kiwitaff
  • Score: 9

8:56am Thu 28 Aug 14

teifion says...

Anyone else think there are echoes of our problems in Pembrokeshire with what's happening in Rotherham this morning ?

Child abuse whistle blower sacked, claims that " lessons have been learnt", nobody involved still working, ppl blaiming the whistle blower, police not investigating and people refusing to resign?

OR Is it me and it's nothing like it ?
Anyone else think there are echoes of our problems in Pembrokeshire with what's happening in Rotherham this morning ? Child abuse whistle blower sacked, claims that " lessons have been learnt", nobody involved still working, ppl blaiming the whistle blower, police not investigating and people refusing to resign? OR Is it me and it's nothing like it ? teifion
  • Score: 8

8:57am Thu 28 Aug 14

Flashbang says...

"Social workers, council bosses and police chiefs who failed to act to prevent the Rotherham sex abuse scandal should resign, Theresa May has said. "
Quote from Daily Telegraph 28/8/14. BPJ, Jamie and others what are you waiting for? Go now!
"Social workers, council bosses and police chiefs who failed to act to prevent the Rotherham sex abuse scandal should resign, Theresa May has said. " Quote from Daily Telegraph 28/8/14. BPJ, Jamie and others what are you waiting for? Go now! Flashbang
  • Score: 11

10:15am Thu 28 Aug 14

SM1968 says...

Jamie, it's over mate, you and BPJ are out of favour. The lid has been blown on ths now, get out now by yourself if I were you and disband your bunch of disgusting loyal followers as well. The lot of you make the electorate sick. Enough talk and dragging heels .

JUST GO!
Jamie, it's over mate, you and BPJ are out of favour. The lid has been blown on ths now, get out now by yourself if I were you and disband your bunch of disgusting loyal followers as well. The lot of you make the electorate sick. Enough talk and dragging heels . JUST GO! SM1968
  • Score: 12

10:30am Thu 28 Aug 14

seaveiw says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Councillors who signed the requisition include: Mike Stoddart, Jonathan Preston, Vivien Stoddart, Tessa Hodgson, Michael Williams, Tony Brinsden, Phil Baker, Jonathan Nutting, Tony Wilcox, Guy Woodham, Gwilym Price, Paul Miller, Alison Lee, David Lloyd, Pat Davies, Bob Kilmister and Peter Stock.
How many of these are IPPG members, if the answer is none then the vote will be governed by IPPG members.
It is little use the politicians at Westminister and the Srnedd telling us the public that we have to follow a democratic route to oust this lot of scumbags, my last email again advised me to contact my local councillor!!!! that I have done so twice already does not make a difference he is part of the ruling party, who have we the public to turn to. This whole saga is going on far too long, come on Welsh Assembly wake up to the fact this council are not fit for purpose.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Councillors who signed the requisition include: Mike Stoddart, Jonathan Preston, Vivien Stoddart, Tessa Hodgson, Michael Williams, Tony Brinsden, Phil Baker, Jonathan Nutting, Tony Wilcox, Guy Woodham, Gwilym Price, Paul Miller, Alison Lee, David Lloyd, Pat Davies, Bob Kilmister and Peter Stock. How many of these are IPPG members, if the answer is none then the vote will be governed by IPPG members.[/p][/quote]It is little use the politicians at Westminister and the Srnedd telling us the public that we have to follow a democratic route to oust this lot of scumbags, my last email again advised me to contact my local councillor!!!! that I have done so twice already does not make a difference he is part of the ruling party, who have we the public to turn to. This whole saga is going on far too long, come on Welsh Assembly wake up to the fact this council are not fit for purpose. seaveiw
  • Score: 9

5:15pm Thu 28 Aug 14

teifion says...

seaveiw wrote:
Flashbang wrote:
If they really are independent councillors let's see them prove it by turning on BPJ and his lapdog. Remember who elected you and why you are actually there councillors.
come on peter morgan and councillor edwards show uss what you are made off, i thought he had upset you both.
It would be good if they allowed themselves to be interviewed by this paper, maybe we could find out why they took so long to make the "telling off" known AND why they didn't stand up to this little ***?

Could also ask if they were worried about a certain planning permission that was mentioned here a few weeks ago
[quote][p][bold]seaveiw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Flashbang[/bold] wrote: If they really are independent councillors let's see them prove it by turning on BPJ and his lapdog. Remember who elected you and why you are actually there councillors.[/p][/quote]come on peter morgan and councillor edwards show uss what you are made off, i thought he had upset you both.[/p][/quote]It would be good if they allowed themselves to be interviewed by this paper, maybe we could find out why they took so long to make the "telling off" known AND why they didn't stand up to this little ***? Could also ask if they were worried about a certain planning permission that was mentioned here a few weeks ago teifion
  • Score: 5

7:38am Fri 29 Aug 14

Welshman23 says...

Swansea council leader David Phillips steps down
At least this person has the backbone to resign when his back is against the wall.
Take note Jamie do us all a favour move over.
Swansea council leader David Phillips steps down At least this person has the backbone to resign when his back is against the wall. Take note Jamie do us all a favour move over. Welshman23
  • Score: 3

3:20pm Fri 29 Aug 14

teifion says...

To all those IPG members who heard and read the stories in the last few days and who thought what went on for years in Rotherham was truly disgusting on an epic scale just have a little think about what's gone on in Pembrokeshire(on a smaller scale) - You may not be able to change things in Yorkshire BUT YOU CAN HELP THINGS GET BETTER IN PEMBROKESHIRE

If you support your party rather than vote with courage and decency ..... well, you decide Ladies and gentlemen
To all those IPG members who heard and read the stories in the last few days and who thought what went on for years in Rotherham was truly disgusting on an epic scale just have a little think about what's gone on in Pembrokeshire(on a smaller scale) - You may not be able to change things in Yorkshire BUT YOU CAN HELP THINGS GET BETTER IN PEMBROKESHIRE If you support your party rather than vote with courage and decency ..... well, you decide Ladies and gentlemen teifion
  • Score: 3
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